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Pro-Am Results, NAP Reminders, GNT Dates
Huge thanks to Stephannie Culbertson, David Moss, Melanie Petsch, and many others for organizing the first Pro-Am game in NYC since November 3rd, 2019! Fun fact, there was supposed to be a Pro-Am on March 15th, 2020, cancelled due to Covid. The following day, Monday March 16th, 2020, was a relatively packed night with an open game, 0-750 game, and a Flight C GNT KO that went into overtime boards — the last board ever played at old Honors!
Thanks to all the volunteering “Pro” players who will be introducing many of our Ams to team bridge for the first time.
See Pro-Am Results for Brackets 1/2 and Brackets 3/4. Bracket leaders below with captains Joan Dziekanski, Jeffrey Hand, Jeff Bayone, and Melanie Petsch.
NAP Flight A / C on Sunday, October 27th
As a reminder, Honors will host the NAP Flight A and Flight C game on Sunday, October 27th at 11am. Please be sure that you have checked you and your partner are eligible to play. As always, top 3 A pair and top 4 C pairs will be invited to represent New York City and Long Island at the national finals in March 2025. Just like last year, if any of the eligible pairs are not able to compete in the NABC, then the honor goes down the line to the next highest pair based on overall score.
NAP Flight B on Sunday, November 3rd + Club Side Games
BRIDGExpress is hosting the NAP Flight B game for qualifying 0-2500 players on Sunday, November 3rd at 11am, paying the usual generous gold and red points. However, there is something for everyone at Lake Success that day.
Alongside the NAP B game, they will run a two-session open “Cha Cha’s Challenge of Champions” game also starting at 11am. It’s unclear whether it will be a true two-session game with carry over, or sectional style with two separate single-session games, but we will find out very shortly. The games will have a Unit Championship rating, which is the same as a STAC except all black points.
For those that only want to play a single session, they will offer that an a single session open pairs as well, also starting at 11am. Again, this is hot off the presses so we will find out shortly whether the single-session game is a completely separate club game, or simply the first session of the Cha Cha Challenge. (Edit: same boards but different section as two-session event)
Here is the Super Sunday Flyer to learn more.
GNT Dates for D24 for 2025 Season
GNT Championship Flight: Feb 22nd + Feb 23rd
GNT Flight A: Feb 2nd Opening Round + Feb 22nd KO
GNT Flight B: Feb 23rd Opening Round + Mar 9th KO
GNT Flight C: Feb 2nd Opening Round + Feb 22nd KO
GNYBA Newsletter Correction: Oct 27th NAP A/C
We apologize for any confusion. An earlier GNYBA email newsletter sent out to the Unit included the incorrect date for Flights A and C for NAPs.
The date has not changed, it is the same Sunday, October 27th that we have mentioned since June. Also, the top 3 pairs in Flight A are invited to represent the District during the Spring NABCs, in addition to the top 4 pairs in Flights B and C.
District 24 NAP for 2024-2025
We updated the latest District 24 NAP Flyer. Don’t worry, all dates on times are the same.
Date and Time
Flights A & C – Oct 27th: 110 East 55th St, 6th Fl, New York, NY 10022
11:00am 1st session / 3:00pm 2nd session
We thank Honors once again for hosting Flight A and Flight C NAPs. This is a District event and therefore you are not able to use your club prepaid credits or player vouchers.
Flight B – Nov 3rd: 354 Lakeville Rd, Great Neck, NY 11020
11:00am 1st session / 3:00pm 2nd session
We are very happy to have BRIDGExpress in Great Neck, NY hosting our Flight B NAPs this year. All players planning to attend the Flight B NAPs, please email glennmartin@bridgexpress.com.
Generous Gold Point Awards
As usual, NAP pays a very generous amount of Masterpoints for a one-day event. First place overall awards for each flight:
Flight A: 32 gold points + $1400/pair travel subsidy
Flight B: 22.50 gold points + $1400/pair travel subsidy
Flight C: 15 half gold / half red + $1400/pair travel subsidy
The 2nd place pair in each flight also receives a slightly lower Masterpoint award and $600/pair in travel subsidies. The 3rd place team in all flights as well as the 4th place team in Flights B and C may represent the district at the Spring NABC but will not receive a subsidy.
If you choose not to attend the national finals in March 2024, you will not be eligible for the travel subsidy but you may still keep the Masterpoints awarded.
Qualification Double Check
To double check whether you and your partner qualified, go to the D24 NAP qualifier list. https://web2.acbl.org/documentLibrary/play/NAP_Qualifiers/NAP_D24.htm
Pro-Am is Back! October 18th, 2024
It’s back! The extremely popular Pro-Am-Am-Am game, which consists of one experienced “pro” captaining a team of three up-and-coming players (the amateurs). The Pro-Am is an amazing introduction to team games in a friendly and social setting. Join the fun on Friday, October 18 at 6pm at Honors: 110 East 55th St, 6th Floor New York.
See the Pro-Am flyer for October 18th, 2024
How does Pro-Am-Am-Am Work?
Each team will consist of three non-Life Master Ams and one Pro or expert player. The teams will play in brackets determined by the Am’s Master Points. Your team remains the same all night, but you switch partners each round. Every member of the team spends 1/3 of the night playing with your Pro as your partner.
Players must register by Oct 8 either as individuals, with a partner, or with 2 other Ams. We may reach capacity so send in your registration as soon as possible. If you want to play with a specific Pro please contact the Pro before you register and include the Pro’s name. Send registration requests or questions to proam@gnyba.org Include Master Point amounts and ACBL player numbers for the Ams if known. Ams do not need to be ACBL members.
Card fees are $40 per Am and must be paid in advance by credit card. After you register, we will send you payment instructions.
We hope to see you!
Update: No Life Masters in Flight C
ACBL at all levels, from management, to the Board of Directors, to the Advisory Council, and various committees have discussed and debated for quite some time now. What should the new requirements be for GNT and NAP stratifications, now that both events have four flights?
The latest decision revises the original motions from the Bridge Committee. Flight C limits will rise from 500 to 750, but still not allow players who achieved Life Master before the season cutoff (usually June 1st for NAP and Sept 1st for GNT).
Here are the latest changes to the National GNT Conditions of Contest.
NAP Changes Come NEXT Year
As a reminder, NAP does NOT change this year, because the motions passed during Summer 2024 NABC, after the current NAP season already began. So for this coming Fall, we still use the old NAP rules with three flights: Open, Flight B (0-2500), and Flight C (NLM 0-500).
Starting next summer with club qualifiers, there will be four flights: Open, Flight A (0-6000), Flight B (0-3000), and Flight C (NLM 0-750).
For this Fall, we have the regularly scheduled 3 flights, with Flights Open and C held at Honors on October 27th, and Flight B held at BRIDGEXpress on November 3rd.
GNT Changes Immediate
The GNT changes take place immediately, meaning in time for this season. Thankfully, District 24 eliminated the team club qualifiers for GNT many years ago (2020 to be exact), during the final year Amy Rhodes was GNT Coordinator. While some Districts find Flight C qualifiers useful for marketing, in D24, the clubs always have a tricky problem making room in their schedule, in particular for a purely Flight C group. Team games are already hard to organize, and once you add the additional restriction that every player must be 0-750 and a NLM, the interest level plummets.
Therefore, the first time the changes impact us will be February 2025, when the GNT District Finals begin (you just register your team straight into the District Finals). There will be quite a few other scheduling changes based on feedback from last year, so that hopefully the crazy KO phase is less of a chore. Stay tuned!
Massive GNT/NAP Changes for 2025
The ACBL Board passed sweeping changes to the Grand National Teams and North American Pairs grassroots events, leveraging much feedback from multiple groups including the Competitions and Conventions Committee, Advisory Council, and the Bridge Committee. We first reported the NAP 4th flight proposals back in November, but what we didn’t expect was a slew of other changes and tweaks.
New Flights for NAP / GNT
There will now be four flights in both NAP and GNT.
Championship Flight: No Masterpoint restriction, Open+ chart
Flight A: 0-6000 Masterpoints, Open Chart
Flight B: 0-3000 Masterpoints, Basic+ Chart
Flight C: 0-750 Masterpoints, Basic+ Chart
Timing of Change – GNT 2025, NAP 2026
Probably the most unfortunate aspect: the changes start in different years. For GNTs, the change starts this season, meaning the most immediate upcoming season. Most District Finals occur in winter 2025 and then the NABC is summer 2025. For NAP, we start NEXT year, with club qualifier starting 2025, District finals in the fall, and NABC in Spring 2026.
So we get one more year of the old NAP, but immediately start the new GNTs. That makes for one confusing transition year. It was simply too late to change the conditions in time for NAP, which already began club qualifiers in June and had national conditions already posted months prior.
Life Master Welcome in Flight C (EDIT: Not Anymore)
[EDIT: After reconsideration and feedback from the Advisory Council and several GNT coordinators, in particular Sue Miguel of D25, the ACBL Board voted to keep the NLM requirement for Flight C]
Flight C for many years did not allow Life Masters. After much discussion and points from all sides, the decision stands to raise Flight C to the same level as the gold rush, which allows all players with 0-750 Masterpoints, whether or not they are a Life Master.
To be honest, the old Non Life Master restriction was primarily for marketing purposes. There seems to be very little difference in the strength of a random player with 700 Masterpoints who is or is not a Life Master, and to further complicate matters, some people got it under the grandfathered 300 cutoff as opposed to the 500 minimum. But teachers and club managers loved being able to market event that is specifically for newer players who are not yet Life Masters.
On the other hand, it was a logistical hassle for GNT Coordinators and ACBL Directors who need to explain what NLM under 500 or NLM under 750 means on every flyer and piece of marketing. Ultimately, matching the Gold Rush seemed the best compromise.
Interesting question for the Masterpoints Committee: Does Flight C pay full gold now that the limit is 0-750 instead of 0-500, instead of the half gold half red?
The New “Mid-Flight” Will be 0-3000, Still Basic+
There was an inflation adjustment of Flight B from 0-2500 to 0-3000, smaller than the originally proposed 0-3500. And while 500 points doesn’t seem huge, it has the very big impact of keeping Flight B using the Basic+ Chart. That means no systems that open 1C with ambiguous shapes and ranges, no opening 1D when you might not have any diamonds, and no systems that heavily use transfer responses or artificial responses without a game force.
The idea is by next summer, ALL related mid-flight events will match GNT Flight B and rise to 3000. That includes the popular Young Pairs (aka Micro LM Pairs), the Micro Spingold, and the Red Ribbon Pairs. It also means for Spring 2026 NABCs, not only will NAP Flight B be 0-3000, but so will the four days prior (0-2500 Pairs and 0-2500 Swiss upgraded to 0-3000).
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Toronto NABC Scheduling Feedback?
Our District and Unit had many solid performances in Toronto! For those who made top 20 in NABC events, you’ll be in the Bridge Bulletin in a few months. Since we don’t have a District GNT photo, we can only offer the D24 NAP Team Photo from Louisville.
Congrats to D24 Players
There are so many notable District 24 successes from this latest two NABCs. If you finished in the top 20 of a named NABC event, your name will appear in the bridge sometime in the September or October issue. Unfortunately, this does not apply to the one-day regional events, such as the daily Gold Rush, Open Pairs, or Bracketed Team events.
Red Ribbon Decline?
The C&C committee meets soon and influences events and scheduling – they especially want to continue attracting mid-flight players to the NABCs. Send your feedback in the comments or write to any GNYBA officer or board member.
By having Micro Spingold start Wed, we hoped it would boost the Red Ribbon attendance, or vice versa. Looking at the data, Micro-Spingold did get a nice boost, but Red Ribbon was much smaller. It seems Red Ribbon is declining in popularity and could use a marketing boost of sorts. Or maybe better to just move it to begin in the infamous Monday / Tuesday gap right after the Micro-LM pairs?
Top chart was Chicago 2023, bottom was original proposed Toronto.
NAP Club Qualifiers This Week: 6/24 – 6/29
Both Honors and Bridge Express are holding NAP Qualifier games this week from 6/24 to 6/29.
You play the same game of bridge that you always do, except each game awards significantly more Masterpoints, 50% of which are red pigmented points that count towards Life Master and other ranks. Scoring in the top half of the field will also qualify you to play in the District 24 North American Pairs events on Sunday Oct 27th and Sun Nov 3rd.
Note: NAP Flight C allows non life masters with 0-500 Masterpoints, so the usual 750 games will be limited to 500 this week.
Honors Bridge (Manhattan, 55th near Park Ave)
Monday: Open pairs 1:00pm, 0-500 pairs 6:30pm
Tuesday: Open pairs 1:00pm
Wednesday: Open pairs 1:00pm, Open pairs 6:30pm
Thursday: Open pairs 1:00 PM, 0-500 pairs 6:30pm
Friday: Open pairs 1:00 PM
Saturday: Open pairs 11:00am
Call 917-544-1224 or 212-457-0894
BRIDGExpress (Great Neck,Long Island)
Wednesday: Open pairs 12:30 PM
Thursday: Open pairs 12:30 PM
Call or text Cathy Kirshner (516) 299-6064
or email cathykirshner@bridgexpress.com
Winter 2024 NYC Regional Flyer: Dec 26th-29th
Here is the latest flyer for the Winter 2024 NYC Regional, taking place at the Marriott Times Square.
GNYBA Winter 2024 Regional Flyer
With pairs and teams every day, there is something for everyone. The tournament begins on Thursday, Dec 26th 2024 concluding on Sunday, Dec 29th, 2024.
Pre-registration highly recommended as we anticipate greater attendance than our past several years of regionals. We will provide pre-registration instructions in the coming weeks.
Daily Schedule
10 a.m. and 3 p.m. Two-session Open Stratified Pairs (open/3500/1500)
10 a.m. and 3 p.m. Two-session Gold Rush Pairs (750/300/150)
10 a.m. and TBD. Bracketed Round Robin Teams (Top bracket as Open Swiss when possible)
Special Events
Fri, 12/27: 10am and 3pm Newcomer Pairs (0-99)
Sun, 12/29: 10am and 3pm Newcomer Pairs (0-99)
Sun 12/29: 10am and TBD: A/X Swiss Teams + 0-2500 Bracketed RR
We have four special newcomer games for players with fewer than 100 Masterpoints. They are morning and afternoon on Friday 12/27 and morning and afternoon on Sunday 12/29.
On the final day, 12/29, instead of the daily bracketed round robin team game, there will be one large open, stratified A/X swiss and a concurrent limited 0-2500 bracketed round robin.