Major GNT Changes, New Dates

Please note the GNT opening round dates have changed:

Sun Feb 2nd:  Flight A (0-6000) and C (NLM 0-750)
Sat + Sun Feb 15th and 16th:  Championship Flight
Sun Feb 23rd:   Flight B (0-3000)

Recommended KO Date for A/C: Feb 16th

The new dates allow a lot of more flexibility for players who want to play multiple flights. Also, there is no longer a conflict on President’s Day weekend with the New England regional. The following changes are on top of the already radical new GNT and NAP changes.

No Mandated KO Dates for A / B / C

Despite a very split vote after polling many prior year players of all flights, we are NOT going to mandate a 2nd KO date this year, except in the Championship flight which has run the same way for many years. However, we have taken many steps to reduce the chaos of everyone’s favorite “schedule-your-own-KO” phase.

Four Surviving Teams to KO Phase

One major change this year is that only four teams will survive the opening round unless there are at least 16 teams in the field. Last year we saw 14, 12, and 10 teams in Flight B, C, and A respectively. The KO phase allowed half the teams to proceed (everyone gets gold that way), but with no practical way to run a 3-way, we were left giving byes, wildcards, and other somewhat strange round of 8 mechanics. It was a lot of fun, paid lots of gold points, but created lots of chaos.

Once upon a time, the conditions allowed 8 teams to survive when 12 show up to the opening round. The theory was, you would split the teams into two equal groups of 6, who play a round robin with 4 survivors just like in a bracketed Soloway. The problem with 8 surviving from 12 is that 8 teams now need to schedule a KO and the four who lose in the round of 8 get ZERO gold points (just 1 or 2 red points from the opening round match awards). Although we don’t care too much about Masterpoints, the logistics, card fees, and inconvenience of a 4 sessions of bridge giving zero gold seems cruel and best avoided.

Recommended KO Date for Flight A and C: Sun Feb 16th

We highly recommend the surviving captains of Flight A and Flight C to agree to their semi final and final KO match on Sunday, Feb 16th, to be held concurrently with the 2nd day of the Championship Flight GNT KO. We will ensure there is a director present, and most importantly, as long as all 4 semifinal teams show up on the same day, it is possible to have a one-session KO in the morning, followed by a 2-session final in the afternoon.

One other benefit of all four semifinal teams showing up on the same day is that the knocked out 3rd/4th teams can play for 3rd place. In prior years, it simply wasn’t worth setting up another entire day just to compete for 3rd after getting knocked out of 1st and 2nd. This way, the teams who block off the entire day will certainly play the entire day. It also lets us establish a more concrete 1st and 2nd alternate in case the wining teams can not attend NABC.

Playing Up KO Conflicts

If a player is in the semifinals for Flight A or Flight C and also makes the semifinals of Championship Flight, we will need to make a special arrangement to reschedule the Championship Flight semifinal KO or the lower Flight KO. So far this has never happened, but it has come close a few times. Per ACBL rules and general sportsmanship common sense, we could never allow a team to knowingly forfeit from a KO because of a known scheduling conflict in another flight. Instead, our conditions this year will accommodate on the off chance this happens and the two teams involved will simply make their own arrangements.

No More Two Groups in Flight A/B/C, One Big Swiss

If 10, 12 or 14 teams showed up, the preferred format was to split the field into two equal strength groups, then have each group play a round robin. That sounds like a good idea to avoid the randomness of a Swiss (some Swiss gambits about last year). However, splitting the field into two groups creates even more randomness because it requires seeding, which falls on the GNT Committee. We believe players and organizers prefer the randomness of a Swiss over the randomness of two groups for Flight A, B, and C.

Opening Round Number of Boards: 40-52

In prior years, the number of boards in the opening round of every flight was 48-56 boards, allowing for the possibility of 8 rounds of 7 when you have 9 teams. It feels funny even writing that, because nowadays, what crazy sponsor would think 56 boards is a good idea?

Last year, we had another problem – with a group of 6, you only play 5 rounds. The conditions forced our director to choose 5 rounds of 10 as the format. Not ideal for Flight C, when 5 rounds of 9 is perfectly acceptable (and honestly 5 rounds of 8 is sounding tempting).

We are giving the directors more flexibility for the sake of everyone’s sanity without detracting from the quality of the tournament.

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Tentative NAP B Results

Director Glenn Martin says there are some adjustments that might need to be made due to some scoring and other rotation issues. However, here are the Tentative NAP B results. A great day all around at BRIDGExpress.

The tentative 2024-2025 Flight B winners this year are:

Ken Lowenstein and Debra Osborn
Lloyd Mandell and Daniel Small
Marsha Katon and Eppie Eagle
Susan Port and Barry Port


Alternates in case any pairs decline to represent New York City and Long Island at the national finals in Memphis:

Alan Davidson and Lee Lin
Matt Gordon and Michael Krevor
Amit Duvshani and Vladimir Kolbun

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NAP B Live from Great Neck

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D24 NAP A / C Winners for 2024-2025

Congrags to Joel and Kent winning first in the NAP Flight A once again this year, with a margin of victory greater than one full board. They won 3 of the last 4 District NAP finals. As for the missing 4th year, it’s because they didn’t need to play at the District level – the 1st place nationwide NAP winners automatically qualify to the national finals the following year.

The other two District representatives in Flight A are Jeffrey Rothstein and Russell Samuel in 2nd place, and Gillian Miniter and Max Rotaru taking 3rd.

This also marks the final year we only have three flights of NAP. Next year we switch to Championship, A, B, and C just like for GNTs.

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D24 NAP A/C Live Results

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Pro-Am Results, NAP Reminders, GNT Dates

Huge thanks to Stephannie Culbertson, David Moss, Melanie Petsch, and many others for organizing the first Pro-Am game in NYC since November 3rd, 2019! Fun fact, there was supposed to be a Pro-Am on March 15th, 2020, cancelled due to Covid. The following day, Monday March 16th, 2020, was a relatively packed night with an open game, 0-750 game, and a Flight C GNT KO that went into overtime boards — the last board ever played at old Honors!

Thanks to all the volunteering “Pro” players who will be introducing many of our Ams to team bridge for the first time.

See Pro-Am Results for Brackets 1/2 and Brackets 3/4. Bracket leaders below with captains Joan DziekanskiJeffrey HandJeff Bayone, and Melanie Petsch.

NAP Flight A / C on Sunday, October 27th

As a reminder, Honors will host the NAP Flight A and Flight C game on Sunday, October 27th at 11am. Please be sure that you have checked you and your partner are eligible to play. As always, top 3 A pair and top 4 C pairs will be invited to represent New York City and Long Island at the national finals in March 2025. Just like last year, if any of the eligible pairs are not able to compete in the NABC, then the honor goes down the line to the next highest pair based on overall score.

NAP Flight B on Sunday, November 3rd + Club Side Games

BRIDGExpress is hosting the NAP Flight B game for qualifying 0-2500 players on Sunday, November 3rd at 11am, paying the usual generous gold and red points. However, there is something for everyone at Lake Success that day.

Alongside the NAP B game, they will run a two-session open “Cha Cha’s Challenge of Champions” game also starting at 11am. It’s unclear whether it will be a true two-session game with carry over, or sectional style with two separate single-session games, but we will find out very shortly. The games will have a Unit Championship rating, which is the same as a STAC except all black points.

For those that only want to play a single session, they will offer that an a single session open pairs as well, also starting at 11am. Again, this is hot off the presses so we will find out shortly whether the single-session game is a completely separate club game, or simply the first session of the Cha Cha Challenge. (Edit: same boards but different section as two-session event)

Here is the Super Sunday Flyer to learn more.

GNT Dates for D24 for 2025 Season

GNT Championship Flight: Feb 22nd + Feb 23rd

GNT Flight A: Feb 2nd Opening Round + Feb 22nd KO

GNT Flight B: Feb 23rd Opening Round + Mar 9th KO

GNT Flight C: Feb 2nd Opening Round + Feb 22nd KO

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GNYBA Newsletter Correction: Oct 27th NAP A/C

We apologize for any confusion. An earlier GNYBA email newsletter sent out to the Unit included the incorrect date for Flights A and C for NAPs.

The date has not changed, it is the same Sunday, October 27th that we have mentioned since June. Also, the top 3 pairs in Flight A are invited to represent the District during the Spring NABCs, in addition to the top 4 pairs in Flights B and C.

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District 24 NAP for 2024-2025

We updated the latest District 24 NAP Flyer. Don’t worry, all dates on times are the same.

Date and Time

Flights A & C – Oct 27th: 110 East 55th St, 6th Fl, New York, NY 10022
11:00am 1st session / 3:00pm 2nd session

We thank Honors once again for hosting Flight A and Flight C NAPs. This is a District event and therefore you are not able to use your club prepaid credits or player vouchers.

Flight B – Nov 3rd: 354 Lakeville Rd, Great Neck, NY 11020
11:00am 1st session / 3:00pm 2nd session

We are very happy to have BRIDGExpress in Great Neck, NY hosting our Flight B NAPs this year. All players planning to attend the Flight B NAPs, please email glennmartin@bridgexpress.com.

Generous Gold Point Awards

As usual, NAP pays a very generous amount of Masterpoints for a one-day event. First place overall awards for each flight:

Flight A: 32 gold points + $1400/pair travel subsidy
Flight B: 22.50 gold points + $1400/pair travel subsidy
Flight C: 15 half gold / half red + $1400/pair travel subsidy

The 2nd place pair in each flight also receives a slightly lower Masterpoint award and $600/pair in travel subsidies. The 3rd place team in all flights as well as the 4th place team in Flights B and C may represent the district at the Spring NABC but will not receive a subsidy.

If you choose not to attend the national finals in March 2024, you will not be eligible for the travel subsidy but you may still keep the Masterpoints awarded.

Qualification Double Check

To double check whether you and your partner qualified, go to the D24 NAP qualifier list. https://web2.acbl.org/documentLibrary/play/NAP_Qualifiers/NAP_D24.htm

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Pro-Am is Back! October 18th, 2024

It’s back! The extremely popular Pro-Am-Am-Am game, which consists of one experienced “pro” captaining a team of three up-and-coming players (the amateurs). The Pro-Am is an amazing introduction to team games in a friendly and social setting. Join the fun on Friday, October 18 at 6pm at Honors: 110 East 55th St, 6th Floor New York.

See the Pro-Am flyer for October 18th, 2024

How does Pro-Am-Am-Am Work?

Each team will consist of three non-Life Master Ams and one Pro or expert player. The teams will play in brackets determined by the Am’s Master Points.  Your team remains the same all night, but you switch partners each round. Every member of the team spends 1/3 of the night playing with your Pro as your partner.

Players must register by Oct 8 either as individuals, with a partner, or with 2 other Ams. We may reach capacity so send in your registration as soon as possible.  If you want to play with a specific Pro please contact the Pro before you register and include the Pro’s name. Send registration requests or questions to proam@gnyba.org  Include Master Point amounts and ACBL player numbers for the Ams if known.  Ams do not need to be ACBL members.

Card fees are $40 per Am and must be paid in advance by credit card. After you register, we will send you payment instructions.

We hope to see you!

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Update: No Life Masters in Flight C

ACBL at all levels, from management, to the Board of Directors, to the Advisory Council, and various committees have discussed and debated for quite some time now. What should the new requirements be for GNT and NAP stratifications, now that both events have four flights?

The latest decision revises the original motions from the Bridge Committee. Flight C limits will rise from 500 to 750, but still not allow players who achieved Life Master before the season cutoff (usually June 1st for NAP and Sept 1st for GNT).

Here are the latest changes to the National GNT Conditions of Contest.

NAP Changes Come NEXT Year

As a reminder, NAP does NOT change this year, because the motions passed during Summer 2024 NABC, after the current NAP season already began. So for this coming Fall, we still use the old NAP rules with three flights: Open, Flight B (0-2500), and Flight C (NLM 0-500).

Starting next summer with club qualifiers, there will be four flights: Open, Flight A (0-6000), Flight B (0-3000), and Flight C (NLM 0-750).

For this Fall, we have the regularly scheduled 3 flights, with Flights Open and C held at Honors on October 27th, and Flight B held at BRIDGEXpress on November 3rd.

GNT Changes Immediate

The GNT changes take place immediately, meaning in time for this season. Thankfully, District 24 eliminated the team club qualifiers for GNT many years ago (2020 to be exact), during the final year Amy Rhodes was GNT Coordinator. While some Districts find Flight C qualifiers useful for marketing, in D24, the clubs always have a tricky problem making room in their schedule, in particular for a purely Flight C group. Team games are already hard to organize, and once you add the additional restriction that every player must be 0-750 and a NLM, the interest level plummets.

Therefore, the first time the changes impact us will be February 2025, when the GNT District Finals begin (you just register your team straight into the District Finals). There will be quite a few other scheduling changes based on feedback from last year, so that hopefully the crazy KO phase is less of a chore. Stay tuned!

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